From ... Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news2.kpn.net!news.kpn.net!nslave.kpnqwest.net!nloc.kpnqwest.net!nmaster.kpnqwest.net!nreader2.kpnqwest.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Packages References: <3225312066723120@naggum.net> Mail-Copies-To: never From: Erik Naggum Message-ID: <3225356485766646@naggum.net> Organization: Naggum Software, Oslo, Norway Lines: 24 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 12:21:13 GMT X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@KPNQwest.no X-Trace: nreader2.kpnqwest.net 1016367673 193.71.199.50 (Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:21:13 MET) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 13:21:13 MET Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.lisp:29238 * Erann Gat | That's true. I am horribly confused. Whether that's my fault or the | fault of the people trying to explain things to me is unclear. It is your fault. Confusion can never be blamed on anyone else. If you think it can, you are horribly confused. * Erik Naggum > Such are the results of incompetence at work. * Erann Gat | One could respond the same way to every frustration anyone has ever had | with any programming language. Well, there is a crucial distinction between incompetence at the designer end of the language and incomptence at the user end of the language. You seem to conclude thet there can be incompetence only at one end, despite your deriding Common Lisp "flaws". I wonder how you reconcile this with yourself, but you probably do not bother. /// -- In a fight against something, the fight has value, victory has none. In a fight for something, the fight is a loss, victory merely relief.